Newsletter
for alumni of The Abbey School, Mt. St. Benedict, Trinidad and Tobago, W.I.
Caracas, 17 August 2013 No. 615
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Dear Friends,
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Thank
you Don on this subject, I must say I don't think I have ever seen anything that
drew my attention as improper, and you guys have done an excellent job so far
with this. We have discussed this
before, however not all are aware of same, we have addressed this concern
before, without donations this is the best we can offer. Hopefully, brothers
will understand, we try to do our best.
So far it seems to be going well.
Cheers,
glen.
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From: idmitch@anguillanet.com
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:18:44 -0400
Hi,
Glen,
I hope
I did not sound critical of Angel. I was just trying to explain to him how his
name got “all over the internet”. He did not seem too aware of the normal email
protocols.
Of
course you are right about the need to be diplomatic and careful about what
goes in the Circular.
That
is what we have Ladislao for! We know we can depend on him to be discrete with
what he circulates
Imagine
if it was me doing the selecting!! Then, all hell would break loose!
But,
to come back to your suggestion about seeking permission in advance. It seems
to me that it might be a bit difficult to find someone who would be willing to
put the time and energy into addressing each person who sends to our a circular
email, and to ask if they mind others reading their email which they have
already circulated.
I want
to suggest that we should all do like I do. Never press “send” on an email
unless you could not care less who reads it, or mind what they might think of
the subject matter. If anyone in our group is sensitive that way, better not
press “send” unless there is “Private and Confidential” notice in the subject
line. (By the way, I have sent out emails with that message in the subject
line, and they have never been circulated further. When we send a private and
confidential email, no one would circulate it, I am sure.) Otherwise, I expect
that any one of my emails copied to all, or even several, of you is fair game
for the Circular.
Keep
well.
Don
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From: Glen
Mckoy
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 12:08 PM
Brothers From All Boarders: Dear Sirs:
Dear
Don, These Circulars are Treasured Collections of Our Alumni.
We are
all Proud of This Book, "The King Of Hearts", The Greatest
Gift, we can ever receive, from The Grand Master, Our Great Knight from the
Sky. Sir. Ladislao Kertesz.
What
we have on the internet is already there, forever and ever as you said.
However,
this should not stop a brother from openly expressing himself in the Circular,
but before it goes to the Blog, it should be edited, delete what you have to,
keep it public friendly, as you know, some times the wrong things are said, and
some personal stories, should be kept out, or request permission to re-publish
same from the author ?
If it
goes on the blog, then its public free for all.
If you
want to read more, Then Buy The Book, just my two cents.
A
brother did voice his concern, as every brother should when need
be.
I am
very pleased to see the many replies, and must thank you all, with regards to
this matter.
See
you later @ the Club.
Cheers
Glen.
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Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 09:47:30 -0500
From: frharold12@gmail.com
Thanks,
Don,
A lot
clearer now.
God
bless,
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On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Don
Mitchell <idmitch@anguillanet.com> wrote:
Hello,
Fr Harold,
You
are quite right that our email is on the internet and is by definition
public. However, only hackers and the US and similar governments can copy
it at will. We all just have to live with the fact that once something
has been emailed, no matter if it is deleted, it is still preserved somewhere,
and for ever and ever, and can be recovered by those with the interest and the
know-how.
However,
the reason why our emails keep turning up in a Google search (or a DuckDuckGo
search, my preference since it has not yet agreed to provide the NSA with
unrestricted access to my searches), is that Ladislao aggregates our emails
into a Circular, which, when it is sent to me, I re-publish once a week in the
Blog at:
So, it
is not the emails per se that come up when we do a Google search on the
internet. It is the Circular (which consists of our emails) that gets
found when we do a search of the internet.
Hope
that helps.
Don
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From: Father
Harold Imamshah
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 10:09 AM
Hi,
Angel,
I am
thinking that as long as the Circular is emailed as a document to all on the
list, it's on the internet, when we reply to an article, our reply also goes on
the internet; however if we were to reply to one individual, not as a reply
through the Abbey Circular, that reply would probably remain private.
Hope
this helps brothers,
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On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:01 AM,
Glen Mckoy <mckoy43glen@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear
Angel,
You
are absolutely correct. I do know my name is all over the internet, if you
bring up the Mount. I think the Circular is a public domain? I am not sure.
However I do understand your concern, as we have many members who I try my
utmost to keep private. Now I think this only applies to the
Circular, and does not apply to the Club, where all is very private, and can
only be disclosed by a Knight, and that will never happen. We have many members
that are very private due to their occupations in Public offices, and
businesses etc., and do not wish to have their personal lives publicized. I
will address this concern to Don, Ladislao & Nigel. I will also cc. Shaun
& Gabriel, as they are more involved in computers than I am, and may be able
to explain same. We will see what can be done to prevent this from continuing.
However many have found us on the internet, due to the same Circulars.
I must
thank you for bringing up this important observation. Have a good day,
Best
Regards
Glen
McKoy.
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From: da.angel@sympatico.ca
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:32:28 -0400
Hi
Glen,
A
strange thing just happened. I looked up my name on the internet Googly and a
bunch of e-mail came up with the 2009 Abby circular 392.
How is
it possible that personal e-mails between us are getting posted on the net??
You
can check for yourself. Just put in Angel Da Silva and you will see what I am
speaking about.
Please
pass this on to Ladislao he may be quite surprise too.
Angel
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Hello,
Glen,
I am
sure I remember Douglas. A quiet boy :-)
I am
sure too that he is not a boy any longer, but I do prefer to remember each of
us as the school boys we once were. I remember Nigel as the “big boy” that he
is in the Fr Benedict photos in the Circular. I don’t recognise the grey-haired
old codger of current vintage who pops up occasionally :-)
Even
when I look at myself in the mirror in the morning while shaving, I still see
that familiar, full head of brown-coloured hair that I am told has in fact been
missing for a couple of decades now.
Keep
well.
Don
[MSB: 1955-1964]
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From: Glen
Mckoy
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 10:02 AM
Hello
Shaun, Don & Andres,
Thank
you for the replies to Angel. Shaun I guess that is the facts as confirmed by
Don.
Don
sorry to hear about the brain damage, Welcome to the Club, Mi Amigo. Andre, so
good to hear about those little reunions in Caracas. Cheers Mis Amigos.
Andres
(Freddy) I spoke to Douglas Houk a few weeks ago, he was staying with his
sister in Miami.
He
said he was going back to Venezuela soon.
Do you know of him, as Ladislao told me to call him, which I did and we
had a wonderful conversation, he was so happy to get the call. However I never heard anything about him
since. Do you know of him?
He
knows Tony from Guyana, also the older Oscar Cantore.
Can you
check on same, if possible?
Thank
You. Have a great day gentlemen.
Best
regards, Glen.
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From: idmitch@anguillanet.com
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 09:40:34 -0400
Hello,
Andres,
It sounds
like it was fun.
I
remember Castro well. He was quite a boxer in his time.
I
remember him ruthlessly knocking me out once in the boxing ring when he
encouraged me to practice spar with him.
I
suspect that I have been brain-damaged ever since :-)
But
please give him my kindest regards when next you see him.
Keep
well.
Don
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Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 8:56 AM
Dear
friends,
Hope
you can solve the problem.
Yesterday
noon we had an OBs meeting in Caracas: Laszlo, Henriquez, Castro, Grossman, Allum and
myself.
Had
paella and beers!!!
Cheers!!
Andres
(Freddy) Freites
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Hello
Angel,
For
the past dozen years Ladislao has been circulating to us our emails that are
copied to him in what he calls “Abbey School, Mt St Benedict Circulars.”
It is his effort to bring us into contact with each other, in many cases for
the first time in 40 or 50 years. About ten years ago he consented to my
posting his Circulars on a Blog to make it easy for Old Boys of our school to
find them and read them. I think that what you are referring to as “a bunch of
emails” are in fact one of his Circulars.
I am
so sorry if you are only now, after all these years, finding out about the
Circulars. I hope that it will mean that friends who have lost contact with you
will find it easy to locate you now. I hope too that you will visit the Blog at
least once a week to check for new ones. Or, you can enter your email address
in the box provided and each time I post a new Circular, it will go directly to
your email.
And, I
hope that no spam will come to you from it. I have to say that I am blessed not
to be receiving any, since I had my computer technician set my spam blocker on
my email account to the appropriate setting many years ago.
Best
wishes,
Don
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Hello
Nigel,
I did
speak with him a few months ago, I sent out an email, but like no one got the
email, strange, got lost on the internet ha! ha! I am still trying to find it.
Anyhow,
he was in Miami at his daughter place I believe. He asked if Fr. Augustine
was still alive, he called a lot of names I did not know, he did say, he and
Tony from Guyana was good friends. He has a business in Venezuela. And would
like to get together for the lime in Caracas. He gave me this email address, houkdoug@yahoo.com, I
never got any replies, I think he was quite busy at the time. That's all I have
for now. Still pending,
Glen.
Re.
Doug Houk, Dion, I believe he works for Colombian Inspection Services Ltda.,
out of Bogota, D.C., Colombia. Check him
out at www.colombianinspection.com, and if you find him, please ask him to drop me or Ladislao a
line.
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If the
Circulars are on a website that does not require a private login, then they are
public.
To
make these private, then the website has to be upgraded to have passwords,
usernames and facilities to reset such names and PWs when we forget (and we
will), which will require a different level of admin, servers and the like.
It
will also add to the cost of maintaining the site.
So...
in summary...
FREE =
Public
Shaun
Gianetti
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Ladislao Kertesz at kertesz11@yahoo.com,
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Photos:
MSBAP06MOUNTINSIDE6512, front cover issue
No.9
59031SPORTSP03, Sports programme 15 of March
1959
59CM0014HIGHJUMP, Dr. Ronald Charles
58IF0008EFAGRP,
Elias Farcheg and friends UNKNOWNS
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